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02-11-2004, 01:23 AM
is anyone experimenting with any drugs up at schoolies??
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Luke 02-11-2004, 01:23 AM is anyone experimenting with any drugs up at schoolies?? Spud 02-11-2004, 07:53 AM i wont go after drugs. but if they are offered go with the flow Baker 02-11-2004, 08:54 AM peer-pressure... you cant deny it... surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 09:45 AM is this aloud?? lol surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 11:45 AM i read what dom said and yeah its aloud.. so il be doing the lottt... haha jks :p kyleallen 02-11-2004, 11:46 AM Well i'm certainly not going after drugs and if they come to me i can safely say i strong enough to not be peer pressured into using drugs :) surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 11:48 AM i can be peer pressured VERY easy.. so if anyones offering or wanting to peer pressure me go for it haha :D :p VERY JOKING@@ Dominic 02-11-2004, 11:53 AM The main consensus on what to say about drugs in the survival guide was: Decide before you go what you will / won't do (don't decide when you are already half cut). Keep it real (be your true self). Has everyone read the survival guide? surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 11:54 AM i want to say so many things but yea for ppl who havnt tried before i mean.. so yeah just be careful if it IS your first time and your trying.. minimal is best at first coz u never know what could happen :):) Sun City Fox 02-11-2004, 12:16 PM im not, i dont want to be given **** like rat poisin and BABY poweder n glucose ****. so much ****! surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 12:19 PM yeah u dont wanna be paying for $hit and u dont wanna be paying for lethal crap either! you just have to be careful and if you dont know what your getting then DONT GET IT! Dominic 02-11-2004, 12:20 PM The dealers know schoolies is one big opportunity to rip people off - they see you comming :p. In the cross they are forever ripping tourists off - same thing. I don't use but if I did I sure as hell wouldn't pay for anything at schoolies. surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 12:28 PM well smart ppl know how much they should be paying.. but i guess if ur desperate ud be paying any amount.. i wuldnt though, Dominic 02-11-2004, 12:35 PM well smart ppl know how much they should be paying.. but i guess if ur desperate ud be paying any amount.. i wuldnt though, I'm talking about product more than price. surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 12:38 PM lol oopsy.... :D stevo_rabs 02-11-2004, 12:46 PM Drugs are gay, don't do them or I'll tell on you. Just drink alcohol, smoke a bit of pot, but leave the rest of that **** alone, you just look like a try-hardy faghead who thinks their cool if you do drugs IMO! :cool: Rob 02-11-2004, 12:52 PM I'll just stick to the alcohol. and maybe the odd bit of rohypnol. :p surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 12:55 PM pitty your opinion doesnt count Stevo :D stevo_rabs 02-11-2004, 01:23 PM pitty your opinion doesnt count Stevo :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/stevo_rabs/granny.jpg surfa_Sair 02-11-2004, 01:25 PM Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Funnyyyy!!! Not :D Dominic 02-11-2004, 01:35 PM Is that ya mum? Baker 02-11-2004, 01:35 PM lol @ stevo! hahaha! was not expecting that!... Maynard 02-11-2004, 04:20 PM Drugs are gay, don't do them or I'll tell on you. Just drink alcohol, smoke a bit of pot, but leave the rest of that **** alone, you just look like a try-hardy faghead who thinks their cool if you do drugs IMO! :cool: Both weed and alcohol are drugs stevo_rabs 02-11-2004, 04:26 PM Both weed and alcohol are drugs I was waiting for someone to pick that up ;) *hands you prize* but I think we're talking about Es, speed, goey etc what not. joey420 02-11-2004, 09:01 PM drugs are good they make u do things that u know u not should (NOFX) mardio 03-11-2004, 08:59 PM you dont need anything other then booze and what mother natures suplies in its natural form Luke 03-11-2004, 10:45 PM you dont need anything other then booze and what mother natures suplies in its natural form umm......weed? lol. Sun_Fire 04-11-2004, 11:15 AM Mother nature also supplies cocaine, morphine among other things ;) I wouldnt take any drugs if I were you, there would be a shortage at schoolies because of thousands so you may not get what you wanted. Soap powder with little heroin? :eek: mardio 04-11-2004, 08:57 PM @ sun_fire didnt u read the part were i said in there natural form cocain and such are processed and not in natural form squeek 05-11-2004, 05:43 PM pass on the grass, alcohol all the way! ;) hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 11:23 AM hahaha pass on the grass?? yeh right.. ill keep my liver in tact thanks. alcohol causes 10x more damage then weed ever will. if ur gunna get pinged or anything just buy it before you goto schoolies so you know your not getting dodgy gear. ;) ps edit: who cares if its NATURAL form or not!?? like seriously... snake venom is "natural" and it will kill you.. panadol isnt natural and it helps you! pffft natural smatural surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 11:28 AM they all cause damage... just to different things.. and depending on how much u use things also.. hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 11:32 AM yeah.. they all cause damage... and different SEVERITY of damage too bro. ciggeretes cause damage too but id rather do that everyday then shoot up herion.( i do neither) if you do the research... alcohol will do alot more damage then must people think compared to dirty fillers like "GLUCOSE!!!" :eek: surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 11:36 AM i hav done research and ive actually studied it to... and yes statistics show that alchohol does more damage.. especially if you do it alot id rather drink every now and then and hav fun then be a total dumb ass pot smoker.. in the end alchohol every now and then doesnt hurt you to much... unless your some sort of alchoholic.. and its whats with the glucose sweety that does the damage.. like ppl say pills arent bad but half a pill can kill some one... and some one can do heroin all there life and hav one bad hit and die... so you never know.. its all bad for you. Just depends how smart you are when doing things!! surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 11:41 AM i like alcho... all the rest in my opinion are dirty :D Hobbit 09-11-2004, 12:33 PM pass on the grass, alcohol all the way! ;) Yeah? Pass it on to me then. Grass is all I will touch, and only if everyone else is doing it. I hate how that **** can turn u into a social outcast. Baker 09-11-2004, 01:22 PM peer presure pervails again... lol... renny 09-11-2004, 01:45 PM peer presure pervails again... lol... rofl NoooOOOOOOooo mr evoids 09-11-2004, 02:11 PM pass on the grass, alcohol all the way! ;) yesm, alcohol all the way for sure, i've been to so many parties where people have smoked then the place has just died out. GOD DAMN SMOKER HERMITS :bash: hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 05:18 PM id rather drink every now and then and hav fun then be a total dumb ass pot smoker so would i... but id also rather get bent as **** and have fun then be a total dumbass...drinker. OF COURSE youd prefer to have fun on X then be a dumbass on Y. you ahve no idea. im gunna go get bent have ecstacy like i do everyweek, your missing out fag. hope u have fun with all your brain cells your savin up for retirement. surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 05:21 PM im actually a girl.. so the correct term would be LESBIAN!! dont be calling me a dumbass.. im not the one frying my brains so to speak :D been there done that it was sooo last year.. so get over yourself! as i said each to there own.. how old are u newayz? im not a total dumbass drinker... and by the sounds of things your just a total dumbass full stop :D hav fun ya hardcore eccy knob :D :D your fully sick mate!! hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 05:23 PM oh and sweety i was talking to the girl that said she didnt want to do drugs because they could be cut with nasty things like blah blah GLUCOSE!!!! my point was if ur afraid of glucose then you have no idea what your talking about. somebodys had a lil too much :beer: tonite i think.. TAXI! surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 05:25 PM and newayz ur not funny.. or smart! people have brains and they like to use them. As i said each to there own. thats her choice not wanting to try things.. im sorry we arent all as hardcore as you and pop 10pills a nite!! boohoooo and i think she meant more harsh things than GLUCOSE!! obviously :facesjump hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 05:26 PM you just said im not the one frying your brains... then you said youve been there done that AHAHAHA silly dyke. it was SOOO last year omG like at that girls top, it doesnt match her handbag like omg like totaly seriously dude no way dude, omg. yeah well i got drunk last year.. drinking was soooo last year sistah im going to go fry my brain so i can communicate with you on the same level. its going to take alot of eccys surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 05:28 PM ur a fkn loony.. i think some ones paranoid from to many drugs if you READ carefully i meant i did E's... not fry my brain and talk about it like im king ****... i think u should tone down a tad and not get so pysched up.. hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 05:32 PM ahaha im real physced up and mad GRRR :mad: THIS MAKES ME FURIOUS ARRGGHH ahhahaa im really bent right now and im laughing edit: oh im the king too!! surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 05:34 PM *cries* i wish i was as cool and as funny as you are.. thats whats really cutting me up... *cries in corner* your a chick rite?? coz guys dont act like that haha hardkore_macdude 09-11-2004, 05:36 PM hahaah u practically insulting yourself when u say im a dumbass then you say only chicks could say the sort of things ive been saying. yeah i wish you were as clever and funny as me too.. then id have a reason to not leave this pointless conversation adn go get ****ed up... yep im full to the brim of self satisfaction and im leaving.... nnnnnNOW. laterz. surfa_Sair 09-11-2004, 05:39 PM raaaa this person is a crak up... and if you werent as dumb as you are.. you would realise i was referring to YOU as being a dumbass.. not a certain sex as being a dumbass.. LATER DUDE!!! hahaha renny 09-11-2004, 05:47 PM hey hardkore macdude, thorpey says you're fully sick Baker 09-11-2004, 05:54 PM hey hardkore macdude, thorpey says you're fully sick rofl! :dancefool (lol i love this dancing guy!) theroxiedoll 10-11-2004, 11:39 AM well i have been an every day stonner for about a year and i have also had a drinking problem. now coming out of both i dont really think you could say one is better then the other. dope makes you antisocial and suseptible to mental illness that runs in the family and alcohol can leave you with brain damage. so like everyhting if you have them in moderation you wil be ok. And as for hardkore who thinks hes mr biggun of the year dont worry about his trash, hes jsut either coming down or a bit egdy cuz he hasnt had a hit in a couple of days poor fella. his top gear is also probably sprayed with poisen just to give him that extra edge too. his agression will probs put him on antidpressants soon which mixed with an eccy wil make some nice convulsions, panic attacks, or maybe even heart failure. have fun hardkore being admitted maybe when your braindamaged you will wish you saved those braincells. after all you only live once and i bet you cant even remember half of your pitfull life. surfa_Sair 10-11-2004, 11:53 AM thanks for sharing that with us roxie.. im sure u would know more then any of us uve delt with it first hand hope your ok now though :) Sun_Fire 10-11-2004, 01:52 PM Cool! Dope makes you look cool for short term, then your life goes down the ****hole after :bash: :rolleyes: Dancinbabe 17-11-2004, 11:23 PM Drugs for me personally... don't want to try it along with smokin... only for the reason that I might get addicted and won't be able to stop so... i'll stick to drinkin lol and watch out for mah friends ;) Catch 20-11-2004, 04:46 PM Drugs??? Definitely man, bring it all on! ahahaha!!! life just wouldnt be the same without billy by my side. :headbang: Danieru_X 20-11-2004, 05:37 PM Dont do drugs, drugs are bad mmmmkay :D alcho and smoking is okay but no illegal **** for me, i want a good job when im older and i dont want **** on my record, call me a pussy but id prefer to have the big bux then have a few good nites. no offence 2 anyone smoke the hell up lol u know why its cloudy 2day, its not coz of the weather, its coz skoolies just started :D Luke 20-11-2004, 06:05 PM actually id rather have a few/several dozen good nights then rather spend 20 years working to get money to buy materialstic possesions... Danieru_X 20-11-2004, 08:09 PM Im just saying there is otha ways to have fun, sex, alcho and good music, u feeling me, but nothign against anyone aye im glad u found a way to keep happy :D keep it up man, i just find happyness otha ways wooly 20-11-2004, 11:41 PM me nor any of my mates ever touch anything other than alcohol, and for some the occaisional smoke (not me tho). i could not imagine having any more fun under the influence of any other drug than when i've had a few drinks and with half a dozen of my best mates, therefore i will not be going anywhere near anything besides alcohol for schoolies and i know there will be no peer presure on me to go that way because all my mates think drugs are as riduculous as i do Catch 21-11-2004, 12:40 AM No ok, seriously. Thats full champion of you Dan, to have that attitude. Completely honestly, I love drugs, they love me, I can't imagine life without them but, sometimes I wish that wasn't the case. My god, the money I would have if i'd grown up without it.... I could have all the clothes I drool over in the shops hahaha *Note: .....I'm a chick if anyone was unsure :cool:* But yeah, whats done is done and I can not wait to get completely trashed when I go down next weekend!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D Aza17 21-11-2004, 01:18 AM Ecstasy or 3,4-MethlyeneDioxyMethamphetamine, is a drug which stops the transmission of serotonin and other chemicals from the brain, therefore leaving you with a feeling relaxation and "no worries", the drug has been known to cause panic attacks and convulsions. Use of ecstasy leads to loss of cognitive abilities such as memory, ability to reason and loss of attention span. There have been medical reports of deaths from MDMA this was caused by irregular heart beat and dehydration. MDMA was discovered and patented in 1912 by an extremely large german pharmaceutical company called "Merck". it was originally designed as a food suppresant but thank fully never passed the trial stage. MDMA laid to rest for about 30 years until it was rediscovered by an American biochemist which said it could be used in psychotherapy. MDMA was named as a class 1 illegal drug in the US in 1985 and unitl then was able to be brought at clubs and was used commonly. now possesion of MDMA is highly punishable and offenders can expect lots of jail time. Today drugs, especially such as cocaine, are extremely east to make at home and many different chemicals such at rat poision(barium carbonate), washing powder, and other toxic organic compunds are added to "highten the effect". this illegal manurfacture of the drug makes it even more toxic. So please dont use ecstasy. Catch 21-11-2004, 02:04 AM wow, what a ..... newsflash. I don't really do ex. It definetely is one of the most ****ed up drugs. It's fine to use just a few times, but you're in deep **** if you get regular, rots your brain to bits. If you do do it however, my advice, take it when you know you're gonna get lucky. It makes sex one hundred times better than you could ever experience so you might as well make the most of it. Same negative side as speed really. It totally ****s up your head so only have it occasionally. but its totally different in that sex is definetely not improved with it, but it gives you one hell of a wild night. Usually I just stick with my daily cones. it's not worth spending heaps of money on the hard **** and, I'm experimenting with this theory, but a lot of people say spliffs are a good way to ease off tobacco. Whatever floats your boat really....... :beer: Dominic 21-11-2004, 05:58 AM Just so everyone knows I'm not saying much in this thread... feel like laying a whole lot of **** on the table cause saw a homeless friend today who is doing really bad on the hammer, but you guys don't need my **** put on you. Have had a lot of friends die from OD over the years and seen a lot of lives f'ed up by drugs. So I'll leave you guys to chat about it. Just want to add though that any posts which encourage others to have a taste when they haven't before are not cool. Lets talk about it but let everyone find their own way and what's right for them without the sales pitch. And for all the dealers at GC Schoolies - stop trying to sell me **** - read the shirt it says Youth Worker - not guy who wants to get on. smeagols_ghost 21-11-2004, 08:24 AM And for all the dealers at GC Schoolies - stop trying to sell me **** - read the shirt it says Youth Worker - not guy who wants to get on. First thats funny but then you think about it and it's really quite scary, there must be a market. I 'sposse you get all types in all industrys :( . Remember everyone is slightly diffrent; Drugs has diffrent effects on diffrent people. One mans wild night is anothers stay in the ER. Tell someone what you think you are using and try to have someone sobar around. As Aza17 said , most are relativly easy to make, they are also easy to **** up (or screw with intentaly). Do you really trust someone whos out to make a quick buck, it's not like you are going to see them again. My final opion : weed ****s me up bad, stick to booze :beer: The socially acceptable way to kill brain cells Aza17: I see someone else has done orgainc chem or can google. Aza17 22-11-2004, 04:33 PM Yes i did chemistry at school and i really liked it, next year i would love to do a chemistry degree, probably a Batchelor of Engineering majoring in Chemical Engineering or a Batcher of applied sciences majoring in industrial chemistry. Keeron_Man_boy 25-05-2005, 07:10 PM is it right or wrong to take drugs on schoolies? :D Pirate Pete 25-05-2005, 07:15 PM It's no more right/wrong than any other time, but my guess is it's more dangerous and you can have loads of fun without. Ben-Busltn/Dunsbrgh-2004 25-05-2005, 07:52 PM i discourage people to bring/do intense drugs(heroin, cocaine, speed, crack, pepsi max) at leavers beacuse theyre ****ed and just like pirate said you can have loads of fun without them. Baker 25-05-2005, 07:57 PM i dont care if you do drugs... but make sure if you do you are in a safe environment with people you know well... nothing worse then freaking out in the middle of the street with randoms.. ssurfy 25-05-2005, 08:43 PM Bad... just make sure you don't do 'em around me dickhead. :bash: JohnTee 25-05-2005, 08:57 PM Do drugs if you want, but dont harm innocent lives. ruddmj 26-05-2005, 12:48 AM bring 4 or 5 cartons of grog and i'm sure you'll manage without drugs, prolly save some money too but yeah...just dont do anything stupid, except drink excessively...cause drinking is okay :P Keeron_Man_boy 26-05-2005, 02:57 AM now i didn't say i was gonna take drugs at schoolies in my post... but i most like will i just wanted to see ur guys opinion abot this surfa_Sair 26-05-2005, 11:58 AM alot of ppl read these forums so just be careful what u say.. Each to there own.. its up to the individual.. but if its your first time.. be careful and dont just do itcoz everyone else is! JohnTee 26-05-2005, 12:08 PM Just be carefull. Nobody is trying to be GOD and ask you to stop or anything. Just dont kill yourself or hurt innocent lives. Dominic 26-05-2005, 01:20 PM You're likely to get ripped off if you buy at schoolies, the dealers can see you coming a mile away. It's pretty much a compulsory prank to rip off the tourists. Anyway, have you had a taste before or would this be your first time? I'm curious too as to why you would start not having used up till now? Keeron_Man_boy 26-05-2005, 10:07 PM ok a question.. hehe Why do you caution me about hurting other people under influence of drugs when grog is just as bad... if not worse? I have only tried certain drugs on 3 occasions. I feel I wasn't aggressive nor violent so I see myself taking them to enhance my great time I will be having at schoolies. I also know what damage it cause myself and im also not the stupid to take more than I can handle. thanks guys for your concern :beer: Aedan_man 26-05-2005, 10:38 PM sure grog is bad but it is controlled and you don't know what is in drugs... they are off the street, i mean there is no control as to what goes in. ruddmj 26-05-2005, 10:49 PM yeah, as long as your smart and know when to stop, you should be okay ssurfy 26-05-2005, 11:56 PM What aedan man said... they're off the street, you don't know whats in them, and I don't see how grog is worse?? And I don't find sitting there licking the back of your lip all night like a moron very exciting hahaa :fb ruddmj 27-05-2005, 12:08 AM ^ "Lets all drink beer and dance like rabbits" agreed ssurfy 27-05-2005, 12:58 AM Haha good man! :givemebee surfa_Sair 27-05-2005, 11:32 AM grog has killed more young ppl then drugs have... if u get alcho poisining its very life threatening.. and sumtimes u dont know when to stop.. just like other stuff! As with most things its all good in moderation! Pirate Pete 27-05-2005, 02:19 PM I think some of the reason booze has killed more is coz it's more common. I think that weed might be safer in moderation, but anything else is more dangerous. Especially anything you snort, even sherbert; one kid in one of my classes snorted some and after he stopped rolling around on the floor, his nose was bleeding! Then he talked someone else that saw him like that into doing it. Nerd schools still have idiots. surfa_Sair 27-05-2005, 03:43 PM and alchohol is bad because u do it every weekend and ALOT and after time it fks u up.. HMMM.. jacqui 27-05-2005, 03:44 PM you dont need drugs to have the best time of your life......the important thing is that you've got your friends, heaps of randoms you want to get to know...and lots and lots of alcohol.....why drugs??? they screw you up Rhubarb_0001 27-05-2005, 05:06 PM i dont do drugs...just weed surfa_Sair 27-05-2005, 05:23 PM and thats not a drug is it? Rhubarb_0001 27-05-2005, 05:49 PM dude totally missed the joke there didnt you bubblez__85 27-05-2005, 05:56 PM hmmm i not sure about this uncanny bunch.... :D http://www.schoolies.org.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35 drugs maybe???? hahaha neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr sorry sair xoox :p dont hate me lol xoxbeck surfa_Sair 27-05-2005, 06:05 PM aaaaaaahahahhaha... its ok bubblez... its pretty funny actually!! and u obviously didnt get i was being sarcastic rhubarb head.. :D there should have been a :rolleyes: at the end of it haha ruddmj 27-05-2005, 11:31 PM lol at the attached photie! Keeron_Man_boy 29-05-2005, 08:11 PM ok sorry dudes i havn't been home the last few days so i havn't been able to post any msgs back. http://www.pillreports.com this site give reports on any pills that go around australia and even the world. so i would be doing my research :D ssurfy 29-05-2005, 09:20 PM you're a dickhead, you're researching drugs to take... i might as well just give you a pack of needles and find some dude to give you herroin smeagols_ghost 29-05-2005, 10:21 PM My only statment : don't do crystal meth bubblez__85 29-05-2005, 10:26 PM lalilaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa if u do it well i dont kno but just be responsible k lol responsible thats a big word :D ox beck Dominic 30-05-2005, 03:27 AM My only statment : don't do crystal meth I spend a lot of time around people on one drug or the other (for work) and I gotta say people on that stuff are so ****ing annoying. Pirate Pete 30-05-2005, 05:28 PM My general disposition towards drugs is "no". If it's weed and it was given to me freely, then yes, but apart from that possibility it's booze all the way. Keeron_Man_boy 30-05-2005, 10:16 PM its better to take mild drugs than having that angel dust stuffso the only way i would know what mild is to research blueprint 30-05-2005, 11:51 PM I have had alcohol posoning before and it sucks butt, but i have also been ****ed over on drugs before. i prefer alcohol any day. so much more fun. i do so much more stupid **** and have heaps more fun, and seeing people freak out on drugs made me stop completely its INSANE :fdup: so i say leave the drugs to some other loser and drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then you can dance like this man :dancefool Keeron_Man_boy 31-05-2005, 01:54 AM each time ive poped a pill i never tripped out...ive always had a great time ssurfy 31-05-2005, 06:45 PM each time ive poped a pill i never tripped out...ive always had a great time lmao, your telling me sitting there like a dumb ass licking the back of your lip all night was a normal habbit??? :p surfa_Sair 31-05-2005, 08:45 PM RAAAA haha so true ssurfy!!! its VERY unnatractive.. one of the worst turn off's but still each to there own.. :D ruddmj 31-05-2005, 08:50 PM RAAAA haha so true ssurfy!!! its VERY unnatractive.. one of the worst turn off's but still each to there own.. :D i second that hey...stoned chicks are the worst! and as for everything else...aaaw x2 matty ssurfy 31-05-2005, 09:08 PM i gotta agree there... i hate stoned chicks.. one of the worst turn off's Rhubarb_0001 31-05-2005, 09:10 PM haha my mate had 1 n a half on saturday night and kept biting his lip till it was like all red and inflammed Keeron_Man_boy 31-05-2005, 10:18 PM hahaha now im oging to get crap off jay!! Jordan 02-06-2005, 09:04 PM i think that the little bit of weed would be good for leavers, during the day or wit ur piss! YEHA! ssurfy 02-06-2005, 10:23 PM haha my mate had 1 n a half on saturday night and kept biting his lip till it was like all red and inflammed haha, is there a thing with extacy that makes people end up with a lip fetish for the time being or something??? :facesjump jacqui 03-06-2005, 06:25 PM weed and alco a very dangerous and lethal combination!! hehehehehehehe.....roll on the good times..... bubblez__85 03-06-2005, 06:29 PM u kno i dont think its drugs that we should be talkin bout i think it should b cars coz ive been hit by a car my friend was hit by a car we were lucky but my other mate was stoned and he got hit by a car and killed so maybe it should be like not just that ur doin drugs but the environment u will be in its a different situation at schoolies and probably most of it will be unfamiliar i think its crazy really if u need to take drugs to have fun then ur not really a fun person thats my oppinion anyways thiink bout it xox beck Jordan 03-06-2005, 06:39 PM oh thats pretty crazy bubblez but i dont take drugs to the extent where i allow myself to get hit by cars :o ssurfy 03-06-2005, 06:42 PM good point bec... i was almost hit by a car, i was sober, the car was doin about 80k's and missed me by about a cm... my mate was screamin me name which made me stop (thank god) and my mum was almost cryin... i **** meself and ran off lol :gr_hail: bubblez__85 03-06-2005, 06:47 PM lol i was sober and hit by a car and my friend was sober and hit by a car and my other friend he wasnt at the extent where he'd jump infront of cars either but it screws ur view on distance and **** like that he didnt deliberately kill himself that boi was my life and like its stupid **** like drugs that just isnt nessecery yer u may think wat ur doin is safe... but u cant sit there and tell me that u or ur mates have never had a bad thing happen whilst u were stoned or getting stoned that kinda thing just doesnt exist doing drugs brings u a certain lifestyle and its not a lifestyle i want anything to do with but if thats wat ur into thats cool but when u start thinkin bout the lil kids who dont even get a life and live only a couple of weeks and think how much ur jerpodising ur life by doing drugs.... i really think its pathetic put it in perspective guys is it really worth it for fun u can have without it xox beck surfa_Sair 03-06-2005, 06:49 PM im not being mean bubz but u can get hit by a car anyday.. and are u saying u dont even drink when u go out of a weekend and stuff?? but yeah sorry to hear that bubblez.. bubblez__85 03-06-2005, 06:55 PM i kno u can get hit by a car anytime im not sayin u rnt but arent u just increasin ur chances??? im not sayin i dont drink but i drink safely and i dont leave the party i make sure im staying the night or getting a lift home by my mum yer i kno oooooo sookylala but i mean i guess it has to happen to u before u can open ur eyes xox beck ruddmj 03-06-2005, 06:55 PM ms. angry is coming out again (ahem sair) tell the real story about getting hit by the car Beck??? anyways...have fun love matty surfa_Sair 03-06-2005, 07:04 PM and why do u assume that im angry when i was just saying how i felt?? im not even angry poo head!! :facesjump bubblez knew what i meant and i def wasnt having a go at her.. im just saying theres arguments on both sides if u know what i mean.. :D all is good im just saying EVERYTHING is fine if your smart about it and do it in moderation.. that is all.. :D :D Keeron_Man_boy 03-06-2005, 07:37 PM my sister got hit by a car.... she ran across the road following her friend and boom! hit by the car.....broke her leg the doctor said she was lucky that it was raining to soften her fall or she would have had serious head injuries Jordan 04-06-2005, 03:12 PM whoa......albany is nuthing like that, i dont know anyone who has ever been hit by a car......u BIG city people must all hate each other tryin to run each other over!! Sammy Wammy 04-06-2005, 10:02 PM A friend of mine got hit by a train after a night out after havin too much to drink.. it was 2 years ago now, but yeah.. I agree people do stupid things when they are under the influence, she would have never had crossed the tracks after seeing a v line train coming.. she thought she could have made it.. So yeah i agree theres more of a chance of people being injured while under the influence, but this may sound harsh to some people but yeah in most circumstances, it is their fault. Jordan 04-06-2005, 11:41 PM well that changes my perspective on drugs.....hhhmmm u guys live crazy lives....i dont know anyone hit by a car or anything like that! Santos 06-06-2005, 11:52 PM i still tend to look for cars when i cross streets. even moreso while stoned. Andyy 07-06-2005, 03:35 AM ----- WARNING, i accidently wrote a short novel instead of a post ------ I remember when i was 14 and completely against anything to do with drugs or weed The next year i was droppin pills fairly often, i even became the head dealer at my school by the age of 16, selling thousands of dollars worth (literally) each weekend. Which was not good because, well. Once u deal drugs become free, i would take drugs when ever i wanted, smokin rock or whatever. But ive never ventured further than Amphetamine based substances (rock, dexies, ecstacy) But as time went by i realised my habbit was spiralling out of control, i decided to stop sellin (thus losing ALOT of money) Now ive been clean for over a year, thats not including the odd occasion where ive had a line or celebrated NYE. I just cant afford to spend $50 on a packet of rock or pill, I DJ now and i need to spend all my spare money on new records ($20ea) or cartons of piss. I dont mind people doing drugs around me, just as long as they knew what they were getting into, i know alot of young girls that think Ecstacy is just swallowing a pill and having a good time, but they could never be so wrong. There are many variables with pills 1. You dont know whats in them 2. You dont even know if its goin to work 3. You have to watch ur water consumption and control it (it caused dehydration SO badly) 4. If you dont keep cool while your up, u could over heat ur bodys core temperature, thus causin irreversable brain damage (happenned to a girl at work on NYE) 5. Ecstacy can cause tears in stomache lining, which sometimes ends up in puking green stuff or even blood (happenned to me when ive slept) 6. Loss of appetite, i didnt eat for 2 days after droppin pills, food is like drinking beer on a really bad hang over 7. Sleep deprivation, u prob wont sleep the night you take a pill, depending on the quality or how much youve drank 8. Seretonin depletion, The high you get from taking ecstacy is produced a from a chemical called Seretonin in your head, if u take too many in one night, ur could use up all ur seretonin thus causin a mild depression 3 days after, this is usually known as Teary Tuesday or whatever (so many names), but personally, its never happenned to me. And theres so much more, i could go on and on forever. but i wont. Sorry. surfa_Sair 07-06-2005, 11:48 AM so true andyy.. or messy wednesday!! haha.. i usually hav such a big high.. but then the next couple of days im on such a downer sumtimes its not worth it :( Keeron_Man_boy 07-06-2005, 02:20 PM thats why this site is so good http://www.bluelight.nu/ you have a fair idea whats going around and if they are mild of heavy surfa_Sair 07-06-2005, 02:40 PM yea but u still dont know what the individual reaction is going to be.. and there are different batches and stuff Andyy 07-06-2005, 02:48 PM Bluelight is a very good source yes, Pillreports.com if ur curious of what it is. yea but u still dont know what the individual reaction is going to be.. and there are different batches and stuff U cant deny tho, its pretty much the same **** most of the time. Come downs wernt that bad for me, id usually have one the following day after and then be over with it. i kinda enjoyed mine, it gave me an excuse to do sweet **** all. i'd just stand behind me decks and mix all day. surfa_Sair 07-06-2005, 03:51 PM yeah 99% of it is the same lol.. but still i mite hav one and be sweet and my friend mite hav the same one and die.. u just never know whats going to happen.. but i guess thats the chance u take... i dont like the day after.. i feel heaps dumb haha Andyy 07-06-2005, 05:38 PM yeah 99% of it is the same lol.. but still i mite hav one and be sweet and my friend mite hav the same one and die.. u just never know whats going to happen.. but i guess thats the chance u take... Red Mistubishi's Green Kappa's People died from them. surfa_Sair 07-06-2005, 06:30 PM yes... yes they did! deegs 07-06-2005, 06:36 PM drugs is your choice, i say if your going to do it and your cool with it then thats ok, but dont try and talk your mates into it. Also people saying how they know when to stop, they know their limit etc im sure thats wat nearly all accidental OD's victims were thinking to. Don't do it by yourself and actually have some knowledge before you jump into it. pillreports is actually a pretty smart thing to look up or simply talk to someone you trust who already knows alot about what you want to do! but do it KNOWING that there is a risk of fuking up everything! surfa_Sair 07-06-2005, 06:46 PM yea i cant stand ppl who pressure there friends into stuff.. or bag them out coz there not doing drugs/alchohol watever it is.. its WEAK to do that!! just like its your choice to do it... its there choice NOT to do it :D ssurfy 07-06-2005, 07:49 PM yea i cant stand ppl who pressure there friends into stuff.. or bag them out coz there not doing drugs/alchohol watever it is.. its WEAK to do that!! just like its your choice to do it... its there choice NOT to do it :D Simple way to put it, you hate peer pressure :p i hate it too, happends to me alot, never works though lol... ask keeron about that, he's been tryna pressure me all yr to dry dope n i wont haha Keeron_Man_boy 07-06-2005, 11:10 PM cause u bag everyone that does drugs.... dont bag it until u tried it :D ssurfy 07-06-2005, 11:55 PM haha i just bag you :p Keeron_Man_boy 08-06-2005, 07:45 PM haha no to bag the f**k out of everyone that does any type of drug thats illegal ssurfy 08-06-2005, 08:41 PM lol which is you :p surfa_Sair 08-06-2005, 10:48 PM its simple.. dont bag ppl out... and dont pressure ppl to do it!! both of u are being silly boys!! haha twisted butafly 14-06-2005, 02:49 PM schoolies is all about bein off ur face and not havin 2 worry about **** between the end of yr 12 and the rest of ur meaninless life.... enjoy the freedom 2 b so fked of ur face and havin no worrys while u can... :facesjump ssurfy 14-06-2005, 05:59 PM not having any worries while you can??? if you go nuts on drugs and grog... you'll be worrying about your life in hospital :p Keeron_Man_boy 14-06-2005, 09:03 PM lmfao go jay tek. 14-06-2005, 09:31 PM as long as no-ones shootin up H or dumpin pins around the beach or toilets i couldnt give a fck, drugs are far from cool tho Jackle 14-06-2005, 09:52 PM LoL bongs are like, cool *shifty eyes* LittleMissPartyHard 15-06-2005, 04:54 PM Has any one read Anna's Story?? If u haven't read it before u go 2 schoolies or even before u take drugs!! It is a huge wake up call.... surfa_Sair 15-06-2005, 05:02 PM yea i hav read it.. its heaps scary and sad.. it shows that alot of ppl dont hav commonsense and maturity when it comes to drugs and things.. and therefore shouldnt be taking them.. Her friends were fine with the same stuff.. but she died on it! :( LittleMissPartyHard 15-06-2005, 05:08 PM Yeah it is a crazy book.. I cried so much. My mum made me read it which in a way has proven 2 b a good thing i guess! Keeron_Man_boy 15-06-2005, 07:29 PM I sense that a huge amount of people are saying that if you take any form of drugs you are going to end up doing something wrong other than taking the substance. If someone takes a drug you automatically feel that they are immature and completely stupid. But eyy I’ve taken drugs before…. And I know a lot of people have heard this before but….i had a f**king great time. I am not irresponsible or immature….. I do not take drugs every weekend or every chance I get. So if someone wishes to take drugs while at schoolies and defiantly know not to bite more than they can chew, then why should we criticise them if we don’t know the person personally? smeagols_ghost 15-06-2005, 10:25 PM ... So if someone wishes to take drugs while at schoolies and defiantly know not to bite more than they can chew, then why should we criticise them if we don’t know the person personally? Because this is an internt fourm and generalizations and black and white polarization rule the day. Most people don't condone the use of mind/state altering drugs to "have a good time". If thats what you need/want to have fun, knock yourself out. But don't expect simpthy when somthing goes wrong (nor do i belive you should have it). And medical help if you od. The angel of darwin states that you shouldn't get any, but people do make stupid mastakes. Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 02:30 AM see thats what i mean.... most people think that whoever is on drugs are going to OD... quote blah blah (dont know how to do it):P "If thats what you need/want to have fun" haha i dont "need" drugs to have a good time... it just simply enhances it from good to great :D but i think a lot of people need to be open about people who take drugs... not all drug users are junkies that have no life and going to die from OD twisted butafly 16-06-2005, 01:54 PM please annas death was no ones fault but hers and its writen to make u think that takin drugs will kill u if u take them.. but if u read it propley u can see that she had no idea wat she was doin the nieve lil girl should of looked into the risks and **** and how 2 look afta her self b4 she made her decison... point is no one should do drugs unless u know ur self that if sumfin goes wrong u will have a good saftey net (friends that wont pussy out on u and run away) and u know wat to do if u get in trouble ie drinkin orange juice will get ride of ur e... and i think that if u feel like takin dugs do so its nobodys choice but ur own ( but b wise only do a half if ur not sure of wat u r doin neva take a whole the first time)and for those of u that dont do drugs dont b lil ppl that do because u cant judge sumfin u havnt tried.... surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 02:26 PM i know ppl who have been drug users for years, have great safety nets (smart friends etc) and ppl who know what they are doing and have still died.. and the orange juice thing is bull$hit.. its not 100%..i know ur not saying it is but u cant just rely on that to make u feel better..orange juice wont stop u from frying all ur brains cells. As with everything and as everyone keeps saying its up the individual, hav a bit of commonsense and do everything in moderation and u should be sweet :D dont criticise ppl if you havnt done it urself.. each to there own we all hav our own brains we all know wat we are doing.. and then the ppl who do it they dont hav to pressure ppl and they dont hav to think there any better for doing it. it works both ways.. just do wat u wanna do and be happy with urself.. oh and noone is pointing fingers about anas death.. if u read it properly it covers both points.. where her friends didnt know what the fck to do and it was her first time etc.. and her and her friends could hav been smarter.. :D Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 03:30 PM the orange juice might be a physiological thing....lol wheres this anna story?? surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 03:32 PM its a book about a young girl who goes to a rave and takes an e and dies.. go get the book out :) and yeah.. alot of it is in your head when ur on drugs.. u can overcome it most of the time.. Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 03:39 PM is the title of the book just Anna's story? surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 03:45 PM hmmmmmmmmmm i really dont know sorry.. i think so :) EDIT: yes it is just called anna's story "She was just fifteen. She was leaving school to start the job of her dreams. She was beautiful, she had a loving family and countless friends. Yet on 21 October 1995, Anna Wood took an ecstasy tablet at a dance party and died three days later" Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 03:46 PM hahha u've read the book but didn't know know the title untill u just searched for it on the net.....am i right lol surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 03:48 PM lol YUP!!... i didnt know wether it was just anna's story or anna wood.. Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 03:49 PM is it an aussie chick??? surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 03:52 PM yeah.. from sydney.. up the road from me actually Keeron_Man_boy 16-06-2005, 03:55 PM freaky..... twisted butafly 16-06-2005, 04:21 PM i wasnt sayin i was better because i have done it i was just sayin my opionion which u r also doin so dont fkn try and belittle me for sayin what i feel.. im sorry that u ave lost ur friends to drugs but i didnt say that being smart about it would save u i said if u r gona do it then u betta of knowin wat ur gettin into... and i have also lost friends to drugs, and my best mate is now in an asylum due to losin er mind from drugs.. so i know that drugs r sumfin if u do then u r gamblin with ur life and with the annas story thin i was sayin if u have read it propley er mum and the auther both feel that she was presured into doin drugs but the point is u r responsable 4 ur own choices nobody else. and it wasnt er first time and yeh when it comes down to it drugs r a bad thing but so is drinkin its also a drug my boyfriends dads best m8 lost his life after chockin on his own vomit so if u belive im stupid because i feel that doin drugs in moderation is fine with me then look at all the ppl out their that drink them selves silly then turn to ppl that chose to do drugs and mock us. When u think about it u neva know when ur goin to die so if doin drugs is sumthin u enjoy i rekon go for it because y not enjoy it while ur here, you could be the most morally correct person in the world and still just die but the difference is u neva enjoyed urself, if u want to do it, doit n if you dont well good for u aslong as u r enjoyin urself and think about this u can take a pill and die but u could also cross the street and get hit by a bus and loose ur life... and we arnt trin 2 make u do **** we r just expressin our side surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 04:31 PM you obviously didnt read my post to well.. it wasnt directed at you at all.. i agree with most of what you are saying. im talking about both sides here.. i drink and take drugs and i agree u prob hav more chance dieing by just walking on the road.. but i dont like ppl who do pressure ppl into taking things or think there cool (not directed at you its just in general) and i also hate ppl who dont take drugs and seem to be able to judge everyone who does.. i hope you get what im saying sorry if u thought it was directed at you.. but i was talking in GENERAL!! i agree with being smart and all the rest of it.. and as i said in about ten thousand of my posts a bit of commonsense goes along way.. and in moderation.. most ppl know what they can handle.. and i agree with most of what your saying :D sorry for the confusion twisted butafly 16-06-2005, 04:34 PM im sorry about the confusion 2 ay i know wat ur sayin ppl that just dont know and think their betta than u cause they dont do drugs r fkn anoyin sorry ..... surfa_Sair 16-06-2005, 04:37 PM haha.. exactly.. i think we are bother getting confused with each other tek. 16-06-2005, 09:28 PM im sorry about the confusion 2 ay i know wat ur sayin ppl that just dont know and think their betta than u cause they dont do drugs r fkn anoyin sorry ..... dosn't change the fact that peer pressure exists and a large amount of e users just pop it cause they think it's a cool thing to do.. eccys do damage to u in ways you cant even imagine, drinkin oj on e how bout i just punch you in the kidneys a few times instead? :rolleyes: use e by anymeans i couldnt give a sh*t but dont come in here all ahh the trips so awesome you dunno you havnt tried it theres no sides blablabla, also i just hope yur old cos takin e before yur brains fully developed isnt a smart thing to do :banghead: troypants 17-06-2005, 12:39 AM yeh guys biki it up, YOU TOO TEK BIKI IT UP MAN!!! dno what ur missin out on. orange butterflies, green mitzis, green stars, yellow stars, red russians, green russians all awesome oj is good 4 u before and after ur trip as it has antioxidants in it which are depleted because ur body uses it to stop the seratonin depleting in ur brain. tek. 17-06-2005, 01:19 AM lol i was just jokin im an eccyhead and cant get enough x i buy pure mdma powder by the kilo and mix it in with my protein shake, works great l0lz Keeron_Man_boy 17-06-2005, 01:25 AM do you do that as well???lol:D troypants 17-06-2005, 01:49 AM OMG SAME TRICK HERE!!! are we brothers tek? troypants 17-06-2005, 01:50 AM l0lzlzlzllzlzllzllzzz surfa_Sair 17-06-2005, 11:40 AM yeh guys biki it up, YOU TOO TEK BIKI IT UP MAN!!! dno what ur missin out on. orange butterflies, green mitzis, green stars, yellow stars, red russians, green russians all awesome oj is good 4 u before and after ur trip as it has antioxidants in it which are depleted because ur body uses it to stop the seratonin depleting in ur brain. how old are u? twisted butafly 17-06-2005, 02:46 PM **** i wasnt tryn to peer presure ppl in2 **** i was just sayin my side of wat i think u guys can all say ur **** bout drugs r bad blah blah but i cant say wat i want thats fkn bull****..... surfa_Sair 17-06-2005, 02:48 PM hey buttafly.. i dont think he meant u were actually doing it.. i think he just meant some ppl do.. and u can have ur say :D :D dont worry about wat other ppl say coz thats ur opinion.. and that counts :) twisted butafly 17-06-2005, 02:51 PM thanx... :o troypants 17-06-2005, 07:26 PM i love you surfer sair smeagols_ghost 17-06-2005, 08:05 PM see thats what i mean.... most people think that whoever is on drugs are going to OD... To be an ass, i said if you od not when. (i know this was a little far back up) The oj thing isn't proven but is a good idea (as long as it's reall oj, not the reconstuded stuff), In the same vain, foods with Tryptophan, will help your body replenish serotonin and aid in sleeping. Tryptophan is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, cottage cheese, meat, fish, turkey, and peanuts. These can be better (wrt the serotonin levels, Serotonin taken orally does not pass into the serotonergic pathways of the central nervous system.) But the rehydration is also a factor here (wiki is your friend) //knows to many chemists/pharmacist/human biols tek. 17-06-2005, 08:22 PM You gotta stick to compound lifts build a routine around the big three, deadlifts /squats/ bench.. You see compound lifts use many muscles thus releasing alot of IGF- insulin growth factor, which along with testosterone and a diet high in complete protein builds muscle. If you can't do squats id recommend trying to do them in a smith machine but watch yur knees cause it stresses the joints quite fierce that being said doing them in a powerack is the man for building mass, on a smith machine is better then missing them altogether though. That my friends is why squats are the king troypants 17-06-2005, 08:22 PM 5 HTP suppliments are even better, aka 5 hydroxytryptophan, seratonin precursor, replenishes seratonin very quickly. be sure not to take while ur coming down as it will lengthen ur trip and u COULD end up with seratonin syndrome. smeagols_ghost 17-06-2005, 09:03 PM good point, 5 HTP seems to cross the blood-brain barrier more readly and is more likely to be converted into seratonin by the approate emiznes. The person would need approate levels of Vitamin B6 for it to work well (and little to no booze) A good diet and some vitiamines :,Vitamin B-6,Vitamin C, and Magnesium (as a mussle relaxent) will help alot. // you can look up the max doeses or talk to a phamist/doctor Edit : removed stuff on pre and post loading with 5 htp, people can google Also IMPORTANT NOTE: i am not a medical professional , you should have a chat to your's before you start taking stuff. I am just a geek with a bit of knowledge on a whole lot of topics and has the ablity to read and compreand faster then most. Jackle 10-07-2006, 05:17 PM Firstly mods delete this if you feel the need. The purpose of this thread is not the condone, nor is it to condem drug use. Its just my personal experience that i think could be benificial to some people. Firstly, Like anything new, i was very aprehensive about trying it, and the only reason i did, was a good friend was and asked me if i would do it with her. A silly reason i guess, but in hindsite, im glad i did. It is definitly an experience that i would not exchange. My experience is a lot different then i have heard. I heard the ecstacy "charged" you up, you went nutz and just wanted to dance and party. For me, it was more of an 'enlightening' experience. I'll try my best to descibe how i was feeling and what it did. Now, as i said, i didnt get charged. For me i was really relaxed. I'll compare it to the feeling of a few drinks after a long day, or the feeling after exhaling a huge cone. Just that total relaxed state. Now weed and grog clouds your mind, you feel slow and sluggish, on E. You are wide awake, you're observant and everything appears clear. As for physical effects, It didnt charge me, but it woke me up, any feeling of tiredness left me and my foot was tapping fast and i was chewing gum at an incredible rate lol. You also get the urge to chain smoke hehe.. so watch it. Mental effects, very clear headed. You feel like you can understand anything. You get an intense sense of empathy with everyone, like you can feel and understand them. All ego's are dropped, and you are able to discuss things you usually wouldnt with someone. It really is the love drug. Anything that worries you seems to not matter, it all makes sense on how it can work. You're neither happy nor sad, its like you are one with everything. A minute may seem like an hour, or an hour a minute, time just doesnt make sense. Back to reality, it gets to a stage, unless you drop again, where you can feel reality coming back. Your fears and doubts return to you, you lose the ability to empathise and your ego re-inflates. But its an experience that stays with you, you can remember that complete feeling of understanding, and i tell you it is very easy to tell how people can get addicted. Where weed and grog its more of a yeah that was fun, but lets do it again another time. E to me left me feeling that i wanted to go back onto it again, and just never lose that clear headed feeling. Finally, coming down. Ecstacy stuffs with your system, you dont realise time go by, and before you know it, its been 15 hours since you ate anything. And you still dont feel like eating. After a sleep you get your apitite back, but its like all you want is an apple, or even half of one. It took me about 2 days before i felt like eating normally again. If you take a few pills, you may also get stomach cramps and just not be able to sleep at all.. so everythign in moderation. Hope this helps someone. Keeron_Man_boy 10-07-2006, 06:36 PM E is great fun if u can control urself with it... someone i know... started takin it bout 8 months ago and since then she prob done it bout 10 times... and they still want to have it more often... everyone is different.. that person i know likes to sit, chill out with music and talk..they also get very paranoid unlike me i like to be active and always talkin but never get paranoid lol just gotta know how to control ur urges of wanting more i also done candy flippin.. which is E and acid in the one night.. this was weird but great fun :rotfl: all i had to do was focus on something and let my mind go free... it was a great feelin if u do this... spend time with urself and go outside a look at the trees and sh!t lmao no one should bag any drug unless uve tried it.. Andyy 11-07-2006, 01:12 AM Like this guy, i am not condoning or condeming the use of ecstacy, im just using my personal experience and trying to educate anyone that is curious. Sorta like teaching kids Sex-Ed, theyre gonna do it anyway so they might aswell be educated. There is NOTHING safe about doing ecstacy, each pill is different from another, a lot of them contain different "substitute" chemicals. Ive seen some real messed up situations in my years of experience Firstly mods delete this if you feel the need. The purpose of this thread is not the condone, nor is it to condem drug use. Its just my personal experience that i think could be benificial to some people. Good stuff Firstly, Like anything new, i was very aprehensive about trying it, and the only reason i did, was a good friend was and asked me if i would do it with her. A silly reason i guess, but in hindsite, im glad i did. It is definitly an experience that i would not exchange. Boobs make guys do things we wouldnt usually do, My experience is a lot different then i have heard. I heard the ecstacy "charged" you up, you went nutz and just wanted to dance and party. For me, it was more of an 'enlightening' experience. It actually depends on the pill, some supercharge ya, while others will put u on ur ass all night (these are called smacky pills, SMACKY not smack based like some tools say) I'll try my best to descibe how i was feeling and what it did. Now, as i said, i didnt get charged. For me i was really relaxed. I'll compare it to the feeling of a few drinks after a long day, or the feeling after exhaling a huge cone. Just that total relaxed state. Now weed and grog clouds your mind, you feel slow and sluggish, on E. You are wide awake, you're observant and everything appears clear. Being charged can also depend on the atmosphere, if ur at a rave and u find urself sittin down without energy, its because u kinda have to force urself (sometimes), kinda like gettin the wheels moving from a complete hault As for physical effects, It didnt charge me, but it woke me up, any feeling of tiredness left me and my foot was tapping fast and i was chewing gum at an incredible rate lol. You also get the urge to chain smoke hehe.. so watch it. A lot of people smoke on ecstacy because (believe it or not, and my personal experience) it gives u a slight boost, whenever i found myself waiting to come up or coming down, id find myself charring down ciggies to get the euphoric rush Mental effects, very clear headed. You feel like you can understand anything. You get an intense sense of empathy with everyone, like you can feel and understand them. All ego's are dropped, and you are able to discuss things you usually wouldnt with someone. It really is the love drug. Anything that worries you seems to not matter, it all makes sense on how it can work. You're neither happy nor sad, its like you are one with everything. Best thing to do on pills is actually connect with someone, ive found myself connecting with complete strangers, its all good A minute may seem like an hour, or an hour a minute, time just doesnt make sense. Back to reality, it gets to a stage, unless you drop again, where you can feel reality coming back. Your fears and doubts return to you, you lose the ability to empathise and your ego re-inflates. But its an experience that stays with you, you can remember that complete feeling of understanding, and i tell you it is very easy to tell how people can get addicted. Where weed and grog its more of a yeah that was fun, but lets do it again another time. E to me left me feeling that i wanted to go back onto it again, and just never lose that clear headed feeling. Ecstacy isnt physically addictive, there are no chemicals in the actual drug that makes people addicted, its all in the head, just make sure u have self discapline, u DONT need to take a pill on the weekend for a good time, just rediscover the wonderful world of binge drinking Finally, coming down. Ecstacy stuffs with your system, you dont realise time go by, and before you know it, its been 15 hours since you ate anything. And you still dont feel like eating. After a sleep you get your apitite back, but its like all you want is an apple, or even half of one. It took me about 2 days before i felt like eating normally again. Cases show that staying awake for over 24 hours causes irreversable brain damage. U will also hear of people taking about 6 or so per night, which is a complete waste, all ecstasy does is release a fluid in ur brain called Seretonin which gives u the whole euphoric rush, Seretonin IS limited and takes about 2 full weeks to restore, this is why some folk find themselves depressed 3 days after taking the drug. To avoid that, eat lots of bananas because they are a natural source for seretonin. The main ingrediant in ecstasy is MDMA (Methylene Dioxy Meth-Amphetamine) Amphetamines are an appetite suppressent, If you take a few pills, you may also get stomach cramps and just not be able to sleep at all.. so everythign in moderation. if ur getting stomache cramps, the reason is that ur stomache lining has deteriorated from the drug. try drinking milk prior and after the drug, this restores/adds extra lining Another way to skip the whole come down is to smoke weed, a lot of weed. it gives u ur appetite back and helps u sleep Hope this helps someone. If anyone is curious about anything or has any questions, feel free to pm me. Dominic 11-07-2006, 08:59 PM My thoughts on this thread is that so far it has headed in a positive and responsible direction. Fully informed involves positive and negative and so far both aspects have been responsibly and accurately portrayed. Thank you for qualifying your comments. I personally choose a drug free lifestyle (except alcohol and tobacco = the biggest killers).... because I see the impact of drug abuse and addiction in my work with homeless people... plus I'm a bit older and more attracted to a sober / fuller lifestyle. I feel able to connect authentically and fully with every person I meet, and at peace with the world and myself. Drugs could not offer me a greater experience of life. My life is not perfect, at times there is great sadness, but I choose to experience life in a sober, full, and authentic way. I feel that this choice is an important part of my masculinity, and view escapism as a practice of the weak. deegs 14-07-2006, 08:16 PM There is NOTHING safe about doing ecstacy, each pill is different from another, a lot of them contain different "substitute" chemicals. Ive seen some real messed up situations in my years of experience SO TRUE! You have to be careful if you decide to do them, get them from someone you trust. I have done my share and like to think i know my limits (although you can't really tell your limits unless you know the pill) and I've been in a cab on the way out (only a few weeks ago) on only 1 pill nothing out of the normal and all of a sudden i blacked out. I just thought i would stress his point about them not being completely safe just make sure you don't go overboard. I will make a bigger input to this thread a bit later when i am not so tired. Aza17 16-07-2006, 12:11 PM .Ecstacy isnt physically addictive, there are no chemicals in the actual drug that makes people addicted, its all in the head, just make sure u have self discapline, u DONT need to take a pill on the weekend for a good time, just rediscover the wonderful world of binge drinking Ecstasy is addictive mate. It contains a highly psychoactive substance called MDMA. It is NOT all in your head. If it was all in your head i then placebo's would work and dealers would just sell cheap panadol placebos under the name of MDMA. MDMA is highly psychoactive and psychotropic. It is addictive. Not as addictive as Nicotine or Heroin or Morphine, but it IS addictive. Luke 16-07-2006, 02:51 PM U will also hear of people taking about 6 or so per night, which is a complete waste, all ecstasy does is release a fluid in ur brain called Seretonin which gives u the whole euphoric rush, Seretonin IS limited and takes about 2 full weeks to restore, this is why some folk find themselves depressed 3 days after taking the drug. Some people take 6 because they have built up a resistance to the drug due to frequent use. mc68 16-07-2006, 03:32 PM i have no qualms about the drug, to me its moved up into the relm of weed as a recreational drug...its just when you get one with trips in it...its not fun, you think the floor is coming out from under you...or you feel like the place as been turned upside down and you must hold onto the floor...not all that fun deegs 16-07-2006, 07:42 PM Ecstasy is addictive mate. It contains a highly psychoactive substance called MDMA. It is NOT all in your head. If it was all in your head i then placebo's would work and dealers would just sell cheap panadol placebos under the name of MDMA. MDMA is highly psychoactive and psychotropic. It is addictive. Not as addictive as Nicotine or Heroin or Morphine, but it IS addictive. "Physically no, the body will not crave more, or become dependent with repeated use. There is a psychological danger, however, that users can start to like it too much and crave the emotional contentment that it provides. Craving the next party, mood swings and inability to concentrate on mundane tasks are common signs." this i think is true i dont depend on it but i have to say i like it and do love the world it takes you to. Instead of doing big nights out with dogs etc the government i think needs to educate people more. No matter what they do there will always be drugs out and people will be using them but they just need to be informed how to minimise danger and need to realise the risks involved. Keeron_Man_boy 17-07-2006, 04:04 AM i found this site very helpful.... bluelight.ru there was another one as well but i can remember it lol if i do ill post it edit: found it... pillreports.com *Edited links, Baker. julz7196 19-07-2006, 05:38 PM last year when i got into the rave scene i poped a bit, but got over the drugs part pritty soon.. for mates that continued regulary there has been a BIG personality change there a bit distant and a few other things i cant explain, if you are guna try or you are a regular user cheek what you are having on pillreports.com aswell as pilldata.org which i find alot more reliable , if its not there its most probs localy made and i wouldnt trust it... dont take stuff with dodgy prints, its most probs no mdma at all. stick to beer, less fuss :beer: *Deactivated links - Ssurfy. deegs 25-08-2006, 08:07 PM Some people take 6 because they have built up a resistance to the drug due to frequent use. just remembered about this thread and remembered something i was going to say, that this is true. Whoever says taking more then one wont be any different is wrong. If it was like this then how do you OD? Just make sure you know your limits. Dominic 30-09-2006, 11:51 AM If you want to post about drugs, lets use this thread. Cheers, Dominic Jackle 30-09-2006, 01:02 PM An interesting article in todays Herald Sun. The website, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, lists 15 drug-taking tips under its "safe partying" link. Schoolies taking drugs are advised to sip water and wear light clothing to avoid overheating and dehydration. (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20500740-2862,00.html) Shifty 01-10-2006, 05:01 PM Well again just a Personal Experiance. Not saying use or dont use. I had a rep at school as being a druggy (for about 2 years before I had even tried anything... strange huh? Peer Pressure...). Anyway I tried pot with some mates once. Kinda fun, but nothing special. But then a year later, I met a new mate, whos parents where junkies. We could get pot any time we could. Use to go thro heaps and spend many nites laughing at the roof. Was all fun and games Flash forward two years. I got kicked out of my house after my dad found 1 to many bongs. I get ripped each nite, without even thinking. The next day I'm slow as hell and take ages to wake up. I use to be a brain. Now I still am, it just takes me ages to get going. And I pay the bills dealing to friends, and getting a crap cut because i cant help but smoke the profits, So I never have any money.. Because I have metal illness in my familly I have a fear of it coming to bite me in the ass. Went through a major depression, and could only face the day if I was screwed up on something (dope, alcohol, valium, Panimax 4.... paint.), and being screwed up made it worse. But I did have many good times with friends while doing some of these.. Its was mostly when I stopped doin it with friends and started doin it by my self everynite. Basicly. Its ok to try. It can be just like alcohol and give you a fun nite to remember when your 80. But dont let it rule your life. *Oh and a side note. If you could get pure (PURE) herion, you could hit up ever day and lead a good life. its the sh!t they cut it with that kills you.* Keeron_Man_boy 01-10-2006, 06:56 PM i kind of went through a similar experience... pretty much started up with a couple of mate, then a group, then the depression stage came so it was just me and another mate smoking everyday for about just under 2 months. never smoked while i was at school.. always straight after it. in those 2 months i would also got the fear (still do) that something **** is goin to happen to me.. sometihng like cancer, kidney failure, something serious lmao i dunno :P oh and i also got this really bad skin rash when it rained.. it was like hives or something ci cant remember but i prositive it was smoking the chemicals and **** in dope. well anyway i looked at myself and cleaned myself up and started hangin around good mates that i was slowly loosin touch with cause of drugs. cleaned myself up i smoke pot prob 1 every month now... and it would only be like a joint nothing big :D and yeah i also found myself taking much longer to complete problem solving puzzles or maths questions lol ssurfy 01-10-2006, 09:13 PM Yeah I witness the whole thing with kieran... just about all our mates stopped liking him, and didn't wanna be around him cause he was getting voilent, there was I think only one or two of us left (including myself) who stuck by kiz through it n helped him pull up, i got pretty harsh on him at some points, but don't regret it :p Sammy Wammy 01-10-2006, 11:16 PM awww isnt that sweet of you jay. lol. Keeron_Man_boy 01-10-2006, 11:29 PM yeah good on ya jay :rotfl: |
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